ArchiSITE
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Frequently Asked Questions
 
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What ways are there to define a terrain model?
When entering 3D Points, what is the right order to type in XYZ co-ordinates?
What is the quickest way to create a surface model from a DXF file which contains the contour lines of the site as 3D polylines ?
 
What unit does the DXF read in to ProSITE?
Can I define a surface with contours?
How can I edit contour lines?
There are some additional contour lines on the resulting plan view after creating the surface model based on contours. What did I do wrong?
 
I read in an older ESM file and contour lines are still crossing. What is the matter?
I have a sketch of a site. What is the easiest way to create the terrain model of it?
I have the contour lines drawn in ArchiCAD. Is there a way to transfer them into ProSITE to create a terrain?
 
How can I modify the surface?
When does Affect Range take effect?
What does Affect Range depend on?
Can I modify the elevation of a house plot or plateau?
Why does the earth balance disappear after some steps?
Can I reset the basic value for earth balance?
What unit is the earth balance displayed in?
Is there an autosave feature in ProSITE?
How can I draw a house plot exactly for a building whose model I already have in ArchiCAD?
 
How can I edit a house plot or any other object?
How can I set different angles for the slopes of a plateau?
Can I copy site features in ProSITE ?
How can I round the edge of a crossing?
How can I modify curves of already rounded crossings?
Is it possible to change the elevation of roads?
Can I model objects such as bridges or freeways with on-ramps?
Can I set a given distortion on sections?
The model is rough when reading into ArchiCAD and looked at it in 3D View. What can I do?
 
What ways are there to define a terrain model?
You can get data from files of different types, and you can define the surface manually as well.

You can open DXF files, text files with coordinate triplets describing the surface with 3D points. XYZ file contains coordinate triplets with line numbers.
ProSITE builds the surface from these data.
You can define the surface manually using the 3D Point Entry tool, any of the Contour Line Entry tools and the Ridge Line tool. The Ridge Line tool can also be used to give contours.

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When entering 3D Points, what is the right order to type in XYZ co-ordinates ?
 
First, specify the elevation (Z value) as it gets highlighted in the co-ordinate box when choosing 3D Point tool. Now, you can just click the locations of the same Z elevation. Or you can type the X and Y co-ordinates manually, pressing Enter at the end of each co-ordinate pair.

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What is the quickest way to create a surface model from a DXF file which contains the contour lines of the site as 3D polylines?
 
Choose the Open command on the File menu. Select DXF on the File Type drop down menu. Open the DXF with the polylines in it. When ProSITE asks you whether to import 3D data from file, click "yes". Polylines of the DXF are imported as contour lines. Specify the boundary and issue the Build Surface command to calculate the terrain model.

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What unit does the DXF read in to ProSITE?
DXF reads in according to the current unit set in the Options/Preferences/Drawing Units dialog box. Therefore, be sure to set the right unit in this dialog before reading the DXF file in.

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Can I define a surface with contours?
Yes, in three ways.

1. With the 3D Point Entry tool you can define several points of the surface. It is advised to open a TIFF file, if any, as a template so that you can trace easily.
This method is suggested if you start a new surface.

2. With the Contour Line tool you can define the known height levels of the surface. It is advised to open a TIFF file, if any, as a template so that you can trace easily.
This method is suggested if you start a new surface, especially if you have a sketch of the site based on a survey.

You can also import DXF files containing 3D property elements - either 3D points or lines, splines. ProSITE can calculate the surface based on the 3D data of the input file, converting the elements into 3D points and Contours.

DXF files with just 2D data can be read and Contour lines can be converted from its lines, splines, polylines.

3. With the Ridge Line tool you can define a ridge (many points on the same height) similarly to a contour. Using the Ridge Line tool start by defining the starting node's elevation and click for  its location (place the starting point of the ridge line), enter the next elevation (if necessary) and then just click to define the next node of an imaginary polyline on a steady height.
Before defining the ridge lines set an Affect Range in the Surface command on the Setting menu bigger than the distance between the ridge lines (contours). This method is recommended if you already have a surface model and want to modify it with defining contours.

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How can I edit contour lines?
There are 3 ways to change a contour line:
- dragging its node,
- adding or removing its node,
- changing its curve at a node by editing the tangent vector of the curve

1. Dragging node of a contour line
Select the contour line. Place the cursor over its node. Press the mouse button when the cursor snaps to the node. Drag the node from its location with the mouse button pressed. (You can release the mouse button later, as dragging.) Click to define the new location of the node.
 

2. Adding and removing node

Select the contour line.
 
Place the cursor over its node to be removed and CTRL - click when the cursor snaps to the node. If you want to add a new node, CTRL - click to define the location of the new node.

3. Changing curve of the contour line
Select the contour line. Press CTRL - Shift key combination. Tangent vectors of the nodes appear as unfilled dots. Drag the tangent vector of a node to change curve of contour.
 


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There are some additional contour lines on the resulting plan view after creating the surface model based on contours. What did I do wrong?
 
There are several answers.

1. You have inputted a fractional input data (contour step, set in the Options/Plan View dialog box, is lower than the frequency of contour lines you have specified the model with).

2. You gave insufficient or erroneous data. The most common mistake here is trying to indicate ridges or ditches with one top or bottom contour. (See below.)
 
INPUT                                                        OUTPUT

Contours are closed curves by definition. A ridge line (as its name indicates) cannot fulfill this requirement since a horizontal line has no horizontal extension. Thus, it is impossible to specify a ridge or ditch by contour line.
(See illustration below)
As one can see,  the horizontal flat cut - indicated with red - crosses the surface twice, which means two contour lines - indicated with yellow dashed lines.
 
Legend:
height level
surface above height level
surface below height level
ridge line
resulting added contour

Contours are placed on every point of a given height. Thus, the result will be in rather equal distance if the terrain is close to symmetric, and will be closer to the side if the side slopes were not asymmetric (the ridge line lies closer to the side, where the slope angle of the terrain is higher, which is displayed with more frequent contours in plan view).
 


If you want to specify the series of the highest or lowest points, we suggest you use the Ridge Line tool. With the Ridge Line tool, you can specify symmetric slope environment.

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I read in an older ESM file and contour lines are still crossing. What is the matter?
 
Saved ESM files store their parameters. Therefore, they read in as they were saved.
To make use of ProSITE's surface generating improvements, set the Number of Mesh Lines value to at least 75 on the Options/Surface settings dialog box, and choose the Better option on the Option/Plan View dialog.

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I have a sketch of a site. What is the easiest way to create the terrain model of it?
 
You can enter the data from the map manually if you know the coordinates of the given points. However, generally it is easier to make a TIFF file from the map by a scanner. The TIFF file can be opened by the Open Template command on the File menu. Having a template "under" your worksheet you can enter points or contours, tracing them on the template.

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I have the contour lines drawn in ArchiCAD. Is there a way to transfer them into ProSITE to create a terrain from?
 
ArchiCAD-drawn SLABS, LINES, POLYLINES, SPLINES and ARCS can be Copy-Pasted into ProSITE. The pasted objects can be converted into contour lines with the use of the 4th and 5th tool option of the Contour tool.

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How can I modify the surface?
The difference between the terms Create and Modify is that while creating a new terrain has a global impact, modification does not affect all the terrain model, just a specified area, preserving the rest.

Creating a new model means the integration into a new model of all terrain specific data (3D Points and Contour Lines), both the already built-in and the recently specified ones. Since this new model is calculated on a newly created database, the terrain may differ from the previous model. Thus all the previously visible contours that are the representation of the surface model may be altered

Modifying a model means leaving the database untouched, which ensures the preservation of the model, while allowing changes to take place in a defined affect zone around the modification (in a distance or within a given polygon).

There are 5 methods to modify an existing surface.

1. Modifying the height of any location
In this case you can specify a polygon within which the changes impact the surface.
You can do this with the Scan Label tool. After choosing the Scan Label tool move the cursor to the location whose elevation you want to change, click or press Z and enter the new z value. Press the Enter button and choose Build Surface from the Edit menu. ProSITE recalculates the surface and the new elevation will take effect.

2. Modifying the height of existing 3D points
You can do it with the Scan Label tool. After choosing the Scan Label tool move the cursor on the existing 3D Point whose elevation you want to change, click or press Z and enter the new z value. Press the Enter button and choose Build Surface from the Edit menu. ProSITE recalculates the surface within the preset Affect Range Radius and the new elevation will take effect.

3. Modifying the height level of an existing Contour Line
You can do this with the Scan Label tool. After choosing the Scan Label tool move the cursor on the existing Contour Line whose elevation you want to change, click or press Z and enter the new z value. Press the Enter button and choose Build Surface from the Edit menu. ProSITE recalculates the surface within the preset Affect Range Radius and the new elevation will take effect.

4. Editing Contour Lines
You can do this with the Arrow/Selection tool.
Select the Contour Line whose curve you want to edit. Movable Selection Nodes appear. Drag the Nodes to the desired place to change the curve.
You can also modify the curve of contours by editing their Nodes' Normal Vectors. Press Ctrl - Shift and the Normal Vectors of the selected contour(s) appear. Drag its end nodes to change the curve.
Choose Build Surface from the Edit menu. ProSITE recalculates the surface within the preset Affect Range Radius and the new elevation will take effect.

5. Placing Ridge or Ditch
With the Ridge Line tool you can define a ridge or ditch (many points on the same or different height).
Using the Ridge Line tool start by defining the starting node's elevation and click for  its location (place the starting point of the ridge line), enter the next elevation (if necessary) and then just click to define the next node of an imaginary polyline on a steady height.
Choose Build Surface from the Edit menu. ProSITE recalculates the surface within the preset Affect Range Radius and the new elevation will take effect.

NOTE that Placing new 3D Points or Contour Lines are not among the list of Terrain Modification. These actions Create new surface!

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When does Affect Range take effect?
Affect range is the distance that closes the area where surface modifications take effect.
There are 3 cases when Affect Range effects surface recalculation:
- modifying the surface by changing the height of a surface location with the help of the Scan Label tool,
- modifying the surface with the Ridge Line tool,
- modifying Contour line.

The Affect Range in the different cases is as follows:

1. Changing height of a surface location
 


2. Modifying the surface with the Ridge Line tool
 

3. Modifying Contour line
 

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What does Affect Range depend on?
Affect Range is an independent explicit value, that is set in the Options/Surface setting dialog box. Its value is understood in the unit specified in the Options/Preferences/Drawing Units dialog box.

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Can I modify the elevation of a house plot or plateau?
Yes, you can do this with the Scan Label tool. After choosing the Scan Label tool move the cursor over the house plot (or plateau) whose elevation you want to change. Click or press Z and enter the new Z value. Pressing Enter, the new elevation will take effect immediately, without using the Build Surface command.

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Why does the earth balance disappear after some steps?
If you change the surface, the previously counted earth balance is not valid. Therefore ProSITE hides it. You can get the current earth balance whenever you like, by clicking the Earth balance button.

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Can I reset the basic value for earth balance?
Yes, click the "V=0" next to the Earth balance button.

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What unit is the earth balance displayed in?
Earth Balance is always displayed in metric unit, namely cubic meter.

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Is there an autosave feature in ProSITE?
Yes. It works automatically after every 20 steps. The AutoSave file (Autosave.ASQ) can be opened only with ProSITE, it does not contain the necessary information to open it using ArchiCAD.

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How can I draw a house plot exactly for a building whose model I already have in ArchiCAD?
 
ArchiCAD drawn SLABS and LINES, POLYLINES, SPLINES, ARCS can be Copy-Pasted into ProSITE. The pasted objects will help you define the exact house plot for the building.

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How can I edit a house plot or any other object?
To edit an object, such as the boundary, a houseplot or a plateau, it has to be selected first.
Select the object by simply clicking on it if you are using the Arrow tool, or Shift - Click if you are using any other tool. (Only one object can be selected to modify.)
 

With the mouse button pressed, drag the node or the edge you want to relocate.
Release the mouse button and click to place the node or edge at the desired location.
 

dragging an edge,         dragging a node

It is also possible to add a new node.
Select the object. CTRL-Click on the edge, where the new node has to be inserted. With the mouse button pressed, drag the node just created.
You can toggle which side of the object to be modified by the new node by pressing the CTRL key.
 

Release the mouse button and click to place the new node at the desired location.

Nodes can be removed from the selected object in the same way, by CTRL-Clicking on them.
However, one cannot reduce the number of nodes to less than the minimum which is 4 in case of perpendicular and 3 in case of arbitrary objects.
The object preserves its perpendicular or arbitrary property after adding or removing nodes of an object.

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How can I set different angles for the slopes of a plateau?
You can set different angles for the slopes either when creating the plateau, or any time later on.

1. Defining slopes when creating the plateau
When finishing the shape by closing the plateau, click on the edge whose slope you want to set. The Changing Slope dialog box appears. Here, you can set both slope parameters.
If you want to change slopes of other edges as well, press OK, if you have finished click Finish.

2. Redefining slopes of existing plateaus
Select the plateau whose slope you want to modify. Double click on the plateau tool on the toolbox to make Plateau Settings dialog box appear. Click the Change Slope button. Click the edge whose slope you want to set. The Changing Slope dialog box appears. Here, you can set both slope parameters. If you want to change slopes of other edges as well, press OK, if you have finished click Finish.

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Can I copy site features in ProSITE?
Yes, house plots and plateaus can be Copy-Pasted within ProSITE.

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How can I round the edge of a crossing?
First the Road tool has to be chosen, then select the crossing.

The easiest way to select the crossing rather than the road is Shift-Clicking on the common line of the crossing and the actual segment.
 

Click on the edge you want to round.
 

The Crossing settings dialog appears, where you can specify the parameters of the rounding.
 

If you choose "Just this corner" then just that edge will be rounded which was clicked on in the previous step.
If you choose "All possible corners" then all the edges of the selected crossing will be rounded.

You can define the parameter of the rounding either by its radius or its length.

Click OK to finish.
 


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How can I modify curves of already rounded crossings?
First, the Road tool has to be chosen, then select the crossing. The only difference is that now the curve of the rounding to be modified has to be clicked in order to pop up the Rounding settings dialog box.

This way by specifying 0 meter as the radius of rounding it is possible to return to the original un-rounded crossing.

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Is it possible to change the elevation of roads?
Yes, ProSITE 6.0 allows roads to be modified vertically.

Any different elevation can be assigned to the nodes of roads (they are indicated with a rectangle just like crossings). Select the Flag tool and click inside the rectangle indicating the node and type the new elevation assigned. Repeat on as many nodes as required.

The height level of end nodes of a given road can also be modified by clicking the Flag tool on the endpoint when the cursor snaps to it.

The height level of the connections to other objects as plateaus or houseplots can be modified in the same way. You have to click the end node (which lies where the road's center line and the other object meet) with the Flag tool active to modify its height.
 


Roads will be linear between their nodes.

Note 1.: These modifications will take effect after integrating them into the model by issuing the Build Surface command. Until that time, even the Scan Label will not going to recognize changes made to the road.

Note 2.: Always start editing the end-nodes of the roads and integrate the changes by the Build Surface command.
It is important to place the end-nodes at the right height first, since they modify the elevation of interior nodes. This is important to keep in mind, since the editing of end-nodes results in the recalculation of the elevation of the interior nodes; thus losing the previously edited levels.
(For details see: Roads.htm)

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Can I model objects such as bridges or freeways with on-ramps?
Yes. Of course the bridge itself cannot be modeled by ProSITE; but all connecting earth work structures such as embankments, fills and so on can.
Locate a Houseplot the size and height of the bridge structure (that is going to be modeled by ArchiCAD) in its final location. - as the Houseplot will temporarily replace the function of the bridge. Upper road(s) has to be created as locating the first/last node just inside the houseplot (forcing the end-node to be on the same height as the Houseplot), while lower road(s) has to be finished just touching the Houseplot (forcing the road to stay on the ground).
As the model is ready to export into ArchiCAD, the temporary bridge (the Houseplot) has to be deleted and a Plateau has to be placed instead on the level of the lower roads with the same slope angles. Save your work without rebuilding the surface.
(Find example in Gallery)
 

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Can I set a given distortion on sections?
Yes. Double click on the Section tool icon on the Toolbar to evoke the Section Settings dialog box.
 

To set a magnification value, choose the right one from the "Scale" drop down list.

To set a rate on the vertical distortion, choose the right one from the "Vertical distortion" drop down list. 
This option helps you to create a useful section in case of a flat lot.

Note, you can modify these parameters of an existing section as well. Select the section to be modified and double click on the Section tool icon on the Toolbar to evoke the Section Settings dialog box and set the parameters, then click OK.

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The model is rough when reading into ArchiCAD and looked at it in 3D View. What can I do?
 
The problem is that the 3D accuracy of the model was set too low.
Open the file again with ProSITE and set the Options/3D View/Number of Mesh Lines higher. It is advised to set it over 75. Save the file, and read it into ArchiCAD. Now, you will se a much more accurate reproduction of the surface in 3D.
See the example on the ArchiCAD 3D visualization of a low set 3D Number of Mesh Line model and its optimal counterpart.
 

Low set 3D Number of Mesh Line model in ArchiCAD

Optimal 3D Number of Mesh Line model in ArchiCAD

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